Yeah ok, on an abstract level, sure -- you are right. The abstract level of post-modern 21st century WEIRD morality infused BOTH with liberal values AND kinda "wokeised" (or, if we don't want to use this word, extremely sensitive to power relations and disparities not merely on a structural level in the society but also in personal relationships).
But. I also think much of the stuff you say "would not be ok" actually would be perfectly ok for the vast majority of humans who have ever lived on this good and terrible earth of ours.
And what matters is OVERALL feeling of one's life being ok, fulfilled, good, not whether any particular moment feels painful. Comparative case: parenthood. Likely 50%+ to of the first couple of years is either drudgery or pain, yet we do it, nowadays often by choice.
>And what matters is OVERALL feeling of one's life being ok, fulfilled, good
Satisfaction over happiness?
I think that's maybe where this series is going. However, I think even can be complicated for those who think a lot, especially if they've experienced the wrong side of an abusive relationship.
> But. I also think much of the stuff you say "would not be ok" actually would be perfectly ok for the vast majority of humans who have ever lived on this good and terrible earth of ours.
Yes, but "it's OK - be evil like those hot evil women from societies with slavery in them" is probably not going to help.
No, I mean more: it's ok to NOT be obsessively focused on one's comfort and pleasure every minute of one's life, and it's actually ok -- not necessarily and always dysfunctional or pathological -- to prioritise something OR SOMEONE over one's own comfort and pleasure (if not necessarily overall fulfilment).
So if you meet someone like that, and they're REALLY like that, and they're NOT going to present you with a resentful invoice few months or years down the line -- which btw I think is one of the main reasons people (women) might be reluctant to take offered services -- it's ok.
Yeah ok, on an abstract level, sure -- you are right. The abstract level of post-modern 21st century WEIRD morality infused BOTH with liberal values AND kinda "wokeised" (or, if we don't want to use this word, extremely sensitive to power relations and disparities not merely on a structural level in the society but also in personal relationships).
But. I also think much of the stuff you say "would not be ok" actually would be perfectly ok for the vast majority of humans who have ever lived on this good and terrible earth of ours.
And what matters is OVERALL feeling of one's life being ok, fulfilled, good, not whether any particular moment feels painful. Comparative case: parenthood. Likely 50%+ to of the first couple of years is either drudgery or pain, yet we do it, nowadays often by choice.
>And what matters is OVERALL feeling of one's life being ok, fulfilled, good
Satisfaction over happiness?
I think that's maybe where this series is going. However, I think even can be complicated for those who think a lot, especially if they've experienced the wrong side of an abusive relationship.
> But. I also think much of the stuff you say "would not be ok" actually would be perfectly ok for the vast majority of humans who have ever lived on this good and terrible earth of ours.
Yes, but "it's OK - be evil like those hot evil women from societies with slavery in them" is probably not going to help.
No, I mean more: it's ok to NOT be obsessively focused on one's comfort and pleasure every minute of one's life, and it's actually ok -- not necessarily and always dysfunctional or pathological -- to prioritise something OR SOMEONE over one's own comfort and pleasure (if not necessarily overall fulfilment).
So if you meet someone like that, and they're REALLY like that, and they're NOT going to present you with a resentful invoice few months or years down the line -- which btw I think is one of the main reasons people (women) might be reluctant to take offered services -- it's ok.